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Creation: Why? [Aug. 30th, 2008|01:51 am]
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Okay, so supposing God exists as the creator, there's a question that pretty much goes unanswered which is "why?"

The most reasonable answer I can think of would be entertainment. There's this existing being chillin' all over all that is, and he's like "Okay, let's do this..." Because it's like this ongoing sitcom that he can get off on watching because we're all clueless creatures, pondering philosophical things and his very existence.

But they say that God is perfect, and though the idea of perfection is pretty ambiguous, I think my understanding of the term would insist there's a huge contradiction. If God, again supposing he exists, is perfect, then he wouldn't NEED or WANT. If one needs or wants something, then everything can't be perfect. If it were, then why need or want? (I'm doing a circle, I know...)

And then there's the whole question, why is it that God's whole existence seems to revolve only around what's going on here on earth? I mean, there's this whole universe, and I suppose there could be more outside of this univers, why don't we hear about God's activity outside of the human race? Why does he only address us?

And back to the whole entertainment theory: How could it possibly be all that entertaining when he already knows what's going on, supposedly. If I go and pick up a movie and knew everything in the movie, word for word, minute by minute, every gesture, every facial expression EXACTLY - EVERY - DETAIL, how is that even entertaining anymore?

None of this is really solid, but the more I discuss one part, it leads me into another.

AND, for crying out loud, WHY do we question every single possibility when we know that no other human could possibly contain a definite answer - and if they COULD, why would we believe them over the other people who think they know the "true" answer to it all?
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From: d_h_belmont
2008-09-02 08:04 am (UTC)
That's actually kinda what I've said about hell for years. I wouldn't want to spend eternity with those kinds of people who think they are so much better than everyone else and so narrow minded. I'd find an eternity of interaction with these people extremely frustrating and painful... I don't mean to pick on Christians in this community, in fact, in recent years, I've made close friends with some who are absolutely wonderful... but there are a lot of aspects of that religion, not so much the religion itself but what it really is today in our society, that has caused a lot of grief and irritation.

About four years ago, I was up late and caught one of those... I don't know if I would call it a television show, but it wasn't quite an infomercial, but it was on religious stuff, and here was this Christian minister proclaiming that hell as we knew it does not exist in the bible. In fact, it was what first informed me that a lot of the "hell" elements came from Inferno. In his interpretations, which made more sense to me, "the wages for sin" is death, not death and eternity in hell. The soul is destroyed, and that's that. Seemed like "hell" is a composite of four different places, two of them referring to actual places that served as essentially large garbage dump sites that were on fire, and another being a place for fallen angels. I don't remember what the fourth place was.

Continuing with the idea of people coming forward claiming the common perception of Christian beliefs don't match the bible, there was this article on CNN.com where this Bishop was saying that many Christians had this bad interpretation of the afterlife. He claimed that after death was a sort of "resting period" before the time came to construct the new world, which I have to say, sounds more interesting than the "paradise" concept. Paradise, like Hell, would get awfully boring after a billion years, and this is assuming there is a heaven that matches most people's perception. I would hope that if there is an afterlife, that it involves becoming more than just a ghost in the sky. I would hope that it would be an advancement, a transition to a next phase of existance, much as going from being a zygote to being an actual person.

In fact, if there is supposed to be a purpose to this life, I would imagine it being quite like the nine months of being inside a womb in that this life may be something pre-natal to something on a "higher" plane of existence.

But this is all speculation and thought, nothing I "firmly" believe in or don't believe in.

...And I suppose it was only a matter of time before Samuel L. Jackson showed his face in this community. He's in everything, you know...

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[User Picture]From: jesuismeursault
2008-09-02 11:00 am (UTC)
hmmm...that's an interesting way to think of things. i can't say i've ever considered this life as a kind of development for the next. it's kind of novel, though i personally believe that once we die, that's it. no do-over, no passing go, and no collecting 200 dollars. but it's intriguing, much the same way i found the soul-building theodicy intriguing...
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From: d_h_belmont
2008-09-02 07:43 pm (UTC)
I don't think I have a definite personal belief on what happens when we die, especially since there's no way to prove it one way or another, but when I think about death, I don't see an afterlife there waiting for me. I see it as simply THE END.

However, if there is an after life, then it surely must be connected to this life somehow. Why screw around on Earth for a hundred years and follow it up with an eternity somewhere else if there's no point to being on Earth first? I can't quite describe what we learn or how we grow that leads us to "the next level", except that it's just that stuff we learn in life, and maybe it's a prerequisite for going to the next life, kinda tying it into the whole "soul building" idea to mentioned earlier, and just like with a class, some people advance quicker than others...

Although I kinda find the idea of reincarnation unpleasant. How does one make progress when all the stuff they've learned gets erased and you have to start ALL OVER, learning EVERYTHING ALL OVER again, and doing EVERYTHING THE HARD WAY ALL OVER AGAIN. What if in this life, you were a humble sage, and you almost made it to the next level, but there was something you missed and you have to live again... only in the next human life, you've wound up as Paris Hilton. Good luck getting where you need to be in THAT life. Or maybe the knowledge is still there, but buried. Much as I don't want to believe in reincarnation, sometimes, I get the feeling I've done this shit a number of times before. I think my perspectives on the world and life are definitely atypical for someone my age, and a lot of advice I dole out to people always has that horrible tendency to sound like an after school special or like something an old person would say... but I'm sure we all get that feeling at least once.

But another thing about reincarnation that I find depressing is that while there is something "beyond" this life, it means that at the same time, the connections between loved ones are meaningless, because while I may be with the love of my life here, in the next life, we'd probably be perfect strangers. In fact, I feel it diminishes a lot of things about who we are... unless, of course, those things are carried over, too.

Damn, how does one go about ending a post like this?

How about... like... THIS?
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