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McCain's Choice [Aug. 30th, 2008|12:28 am]
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[d_h_belmont]
John McCain's pick for VP, if you haven't heard, is Alaskan Senator Sarah Palin.

Seeing as McCain and the GOP are really REALLY trying to get the idea across that Barack Obama is inexperienced, McCain's choice seems extremely hyprocritical as both of them haven't spent a lot of time in "the game". Obama is a first term senator, and Palin is a first term governor of Alaska. Both Obama and Palin are about the same age. Not only does it seem hypocritical to me, it seems to be blatant pandering to frustrated voters who REALLY REALLY wanted Hillary to get the nod. It also seems a way to go "Well, if you vote for me, we can make history too as she'd be the first woman vice president!". It doesn't seem to be a choice based on what's best for the nation, who would be the most qualified for the job, but instead, solely, what could capture the most votes.

Someone on a Star Trek discussion forum gave McCain "props" for "thinking for himself and not just going along with what his advisors and consultants say". Independent thinking is good, but... I wish I was drinking coffee at that moment so I could spit it all over the computer I was using. Are we really going to give someone props for disregarding advice given to him who obviously know enough of what they are talking about to get hired in the first place? Is this "go it alone" policy really a GOOD thing? Oh yeah, this advice is sounds and logical, but I am going to do whatever I want because I am the guy running for office. Everyone else can screw themselves.

Republicans acting Hypocritical? Tell me something new.
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[User Picture]From: hahahasyyke
2008-08-30 07:56 am (UTC)
Give me a break, McCain.
I think it's somewhat comical, because Obama ended up pulling in a running mate who is very experienced - Which I thought was a smart move to balance out the complaints that he's inexperienced (not that anyone already planning to vote for McCain would bother to take that into consideration...), and then McCain turns around and picks someone inexperienced (which some would consider a balance to make the ancient-old-man complaint less of an issue...) which I think actually makes me support Obama more. The way *I* see it is McCain is now old and out of touch AND has an inexperienced running mate... Booooo. I have my doubts that her being female will REALLY help him all that much, and by now I'm sure many voters have already made up their mind. From now until November, I feel like it's all entertainment or just a matter of setting peoples' decisions in a little deeper.

Anyone on the fence who is swayed to the republican side of matters by his choice of VP should probably be slapped, but I suppose so should a huge portion of the population, anyway, for various reasons. Haha.

Seriously, if McCain wins, I might spend the next four years bitching. Nobody wants that... Maybe Obama should use that to win voters - "Nobody wants Jen Poe to bitch, so vote for me!" hahahaha
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[User Picture]From: hahahasyyke
2008-08-30 09:52 pm (UTC)
I was just doing a little reading, and apparently Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools. ("'Creation science' enters the race," Anchorage Daily News, October 27, 2006
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=17737&id=13661-10123647-rg4ck.x&t=3)

And something else, kind of going along with the last point you were making - How closely did John McCain vet this choice? He met Sarah Palin once at a meeting. They spoke a second time, last Sunday, when he called her about being vice-president. Then he offered her the position.
("McCain met Palin once before yesterday," MSNBC, August 29, 2008
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=21119&id=13661-10123647-rg4ck.x&t=8)

Awesome.

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From: d_h_belmont
2008-08-31 09:48 pm (UTC)
You cited your sources, Jen. You have no idea how hot that is.
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[User Picture]From: jesuismeursault
2008-08-31 08:04 pm (UTC)
i think he is clearly playing the novelty card. now he has a woman on the ticket, so that's just as good as having a black guy, right? right? yeah, no. a politician lacking integrity is nothing new, but i just can't stand the desperate grasping at straws.
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From: d_h_belmont
2008-08-31 09:33 pm (UTC)
I'd find McCain's actions incredibly hilarious if not for the fact it might dupe some voters to pick him.

But it's the hypocrisy, and the fact most people are oblivious to it, that REALLY bothers me.

Oh, I love your display pics, by the way. Especially the Hannibal Lector one.
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[User Picture]From: jesuismeursault
2008-09-01 07:10 am (UTC)
thanks! i love having pics for any occasion. it's a sickness.

i agree that mccain is being quite hypocritical. and, regardless, he has no executive experience himself, so it's hard for him to accuse obama of lacking experience, when neither of them have that particular brand of experience. but picking the all american motherly type as your running mate in a desperate attempt to grab at the swing voters and those who wanted to see a woman in office is going too far, especially given the accusations he's tossing obama's way. politics sickens me as a general rule, but it seems it can always get worse. is it ever going to get better?
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From: d_h_belmont
2008-09-01 07:48 pm (UTC)
Nope.

I think the only way Politics will get better is if the general public gets a brain and has the capacity to recognize political tactics and spin and when one's argument is full of logical fallacies. These ads they run during election time are meant for the lowest common denominator, and it's frustrating to see something negative on TV and I think "You're taking this out of context to the point of lying" or "That's not even relevant to the election", or something else like "That's a post hoc ergo proctor hoc logical fallacy (fun to say!)...

I'll be glad when it's all over.
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From: d_h_belmont
2008-09-02 08:27 am (UTC)
To most, it's a popularity content. To others, they simply vote one way because they belong to a party and their parents and grandparents belonged to that party, too, and others still vote a certain way because their pastor tells them how to vote.

What people need to realize is that the Founding Fathers didn't want the American people to vote for a President, and if I remember correctly, Senators used to be selected by the House. The reason for this was because the general public is ignorant and wouldn't know what to do with that level of democratic freedom. That's one reason we had an Electoral College; we voted for people who would in turn, vote for the President. It's still technically that way, but no one seems to realize that. I'd be in favor of returning to the old ways. At the very least, we wouldn't have to hear candidates talk about abortion and God and health care for seniors anymore. Maybe then, they could build a platform based on what the role of President calls for. I'm not saying the public should be removed from politics entirely, but I think it would be nice if politicians could focus more on what needs to be done and not on how to get reelected.

But since that doesn't happen, I think we need to find a way to show people that sound bites mean nothing without hearing everything a candidate says. People need to learn early on what arguments are logical and which would be considered flawed, and just because he seems like he could be your friend, does not mean he could lead a nation into war or rally us together in times of crisis or tragedy.

I disagree with you on the part about how we'd still be British subjects. Mind you, most people who eventually supported the war during those times were getting upset about something people still get pissed about today: TAXES. I believe the old line was "No taxation without representation!", and I think that's the mentality people have today, only they don't care whether they get represented or not, they just don't like ANY form of taxes. Wanna smear a candidate? Tell everyone about how many times he voted in favor of a tax hike REGARDLESS of the nature of the tax. It was all about taxes back then seeing as England wasn't really taking away their freedoms... except when it came to encroaching on Indian territory; in response to the attacks, the King said to leave them alone and stay out of their territory. We could get into the minutiae of King George III, but let's save it for later. It was taxes then and it's taxes today with the whole idea of "freedom" stapled onto it somehow.

Polly ticks.... hmmph!
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From: d_h_belmont
2008-09-01 07:51 pm (UTC)
So Palin's 17 year old daughter got knocked up. What happened to those "traditional family values" conservatives preach about?

That was a low blow, I will admit it freely, but I think it goes to show that just because something like this happens doesn't mean the child grew up in an "immoral" household.
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From: d_h_belmont
2008-09-02 08:46 am (UTC)
Yeah, I sort of went "JOE BIDEN?!" for several minutes after I first heard about it, but I couldn't think of a better choice, either. I'm not really bothered by it anymore, and I do believe he has the potential to make Palin look very stupid in a VP debate. Note that I said "potential", and I think that's what they should focus on. She has virtually no political experience, this governor of a frozen wasteland. With McCain being so freakin' old, it will be on people's minds that there may come this time she has to replace him. Is she ready to take command if the time comes? Probably not. I don't think running Alaska gives one a proper perspective on how to operate things in the United States in general.
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From: d_h_belmont
2008-09-04 04:51 am (UTC)

It finally happened

My boss praised Palin as being someone who "hasn't been in politics long enough to be corrupted" and it wasn't that long ago his was criticizing Obama for being inexperienced.

I wanted to tell my boss to give me a fucking break, but I like my job (enough to stick around). I had to hear Rush Limbaugh and Lars Larson all damn day today, and it's just driving me insane because I hear this garbage and with each line, I can pick out things that are just wrong, are being taken out of context, or... are just fucking creepy.

I get so sick of having to smile and laugh along with everyone else as they make incredibly ignorant statements and insults at Obama, liberals, and the Democratic party. I hate having to keep my damn mouth shut all damn day; I could only imagine how obnoxious I would be appear to others if I got that excited (the word I'm looking for is RABID) about listening to Liberal Talk Radio (an oxymoron?) and seeing the Democratic National Convention. They all had boners over the RNC convention, and everytime they listen to Rush, I feel like they're going to go on a witch hunt and hang a liberal.

I hate politics.
It's George W. Bush's fault I became a Democrat, and I'm not impressed with either political party.
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[User Picture]From: hahahasyyke
2008-09-04 11:44 pm (UTC)

Re: It finally happened

Jesus Christ. This is what we get for living here, and not Eugene.
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From: d_h_belmont
2008-11-11 12:49 am (UTC)

After the fact...

Sarah Palin... What a dunce, huh? It wasn't her detractors that made her look like a complete and total ass. It was the crap that came out of her mouth in interviews and during debates that made her look like she didn't know her ass from a hole in the ground. I'm being harsh, but a lot of conservatives practically jizzed themselves over the this VP candidate, blowing their load over this gun toting hockey mom thinking things about Palin that's on par with with what some democrats and liberals felt about Obama.

She came off as incredibly dumb. Sorry, Sarah. The Vice President is not "in charge" of the Senate. If you can't get that right, I can't imagine what you'd do if John McCain kicked the bucket. I was also annoyed how she wouldn't answer questions that deviated from the script ever so slightly. How can you praise leadership like that?

I am so happy to post that the desperate attempt to grab voters with Sarah Palin backfired. I think I'm happier that she is NOT going to be our VP than Obama winning... and that was something else. Anybody see his acceptance speech after it was announced? Powerful stuff. BS? Maybe? Rhetoric? Maybe, but I felt motivated, and that "Yes we can!" message really resonated with me.

Rather than that stupid "No-Bama" crap I see all about town, I follow that up with...

GO-BAMA! (But that's also stupid, so I just wish him the best of luck cleaning up Bush Jr.'s mess.)
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